(Now outdated) Catherine Lejeune reasoning:
Where was I
able to obtain the names of Catherine LeJeune's parents, wife of François
Savoie?
I believe
that Stephen White says that Catherine and Edmee (sisters) are the daughters of “parents unknown.”
No parents are listed in the DGFA for these
two sisters. According to Rameau de Saint Pere, A
Feudal Colony in America, Acadia 1604-1881, Vol 2, p. 318-320,: “… the
LeJeune-Briard family was part Métis Native American, and part French. The
LeJeune Métis family had settled at Merligouesh (Indian and Métis village
located between Cap-de-Sable and La-Heve), because two men from
Three of their sons appear to have become "coureurs de
bois" with the Indians and Métis: Jean, Francois and Germain Gautherot...
These marriages will later be blessed by the Recollets when they come back to
The LeJeunes will use
the surname of Briard: sometimes the surname of their true ancestor, LeJeune;
at other times they will assume his surname of Briard which would seem to
indicate that their ancestor came from Brie, a region east of
The consanguinity of the LeJeunes, (called) dit Briard, is sometimes difficult
to establish for the reason that many of them will continue to live in Indian
and Métis villages; others will settle in Piziauid, south of the Bassin des
Mines. This being said, little remains of the registers from the two parishes
of this settlement: Sainte-Famille and l'Assumption. The Acadian ancestor of
the LeJeune-Briards had at least three children who reached adulthood: Emdee,
Pierre, and Catherine.”
In
addition to the Rameau source, this above info comes from: Steven Cormier’s
“Acadians in Gray: Appendice A: Pioneers of Acadian Families Who Migrated to
(A
document that I have erroneously described as…) “The 1661 Quebec Register “ refers to two sisters Edmee and Catherine LeJeune “en
Acadie” as “vici en France ou de mère indienne” – this (if
truly a 1661 register) would have illustrated that even in 1661 the origin of
the two girls was not certain, but that indian blood was suspected, else it
would not have even been mentioned in the register. The
See: "so-called" 1661_Quebec_register
Stephen
White identified this document as a working document of researcher Archange Godbout, rather than a 1661 register of any sort.
Because, as White points out, the handwriting does certainly appear to be much
more recent in style than would have been the case for a 1661 sample, and
because White has indicated to me that his copy obtained from the archives at the
University of Moncton does not have the “1661 Quebec register” label,” I am confident that White is correct. The
1661 label must, therefore, have been erroneously added, at some later point,
by an unknown individual (or visitor?), at the
As
part of the previous arguments proposing that the Lejeune
sisters might be Amerindian, I also noted that Edmée’s
son Charles Gautreau married Francoise Rimbault, the Métis daughter of (mtDNA-proven haplotype A)
Amerindian Anne-Marie.
However….recent mtDNA test results for several
of Catherine and Edmée’s descendants have
consistently indicated a haplotype of U6a.
www.acadian-home.org
list this type as “U6a-European,” but more formal genetics sources and studies
consistently refer to U6a as North African in origin, primarily concentrated
in, but certainly not limited to
Several people have stated at Internet genealogy foruma and websites that Sterphen White has stated that it is a son Pierre, Jr., that married an Ameridian, not the father, so Edmee and Catherine would not have Amerindian blood; only the descendants of the son Pierre, Jr. would have that Amerindian blood.
No one is disputing the claim that the younger
http://acadian-home.org/SAW-CloserLookRecords.html
Sue Allen presents a document trail supporting
the Métis origin at her site :
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/l/l/Sue--A-Allen/?Welcome=1094685137
In
addition to letters from the Acadian Research Center, and pages from Lanctot,
and Rameau, she also has scanned images of the transcribed pages from the
document that the Acdian research center in St John,
NB had (erroneously) identified as the 1661 Quebec Register.
There
has been so much controversy about this particular line that several of their
descendants have now done DNA testing to see if there is Indian blood. You may
peruse at your leisure such discussion at Genforum.com and find a couple of
postings that say theirs came back strong positive for Indian blood, and
another one that said no (although that person had a mtDNA test = maternal line
only, done and her lineage was inaccurate according to how to how Stephen White
details the same line. Per that lineage the tested individual was NOT a direct
descendant of Catherine or her sister Edmée LeJeune,
- instead, that person’s matrilineal line led to Marie Gautrot\Gautreau,
daughter of Marie (unknown) who FIRST married Francois Gautrot instead of his
SECOND wife Edmée. This test therefore
provided no insights other than not one of that test
subject’s female ancestors had Indian blood, including the unknown
Marie. The previous question, however, discussed other more recent test results
that discount the likelihood of Amerindian blood, at least on the part of the
girls’ unknown mother and their maternal grandmother.
Here
are some extracted Stephen Whites comments at Lucie Consentino’s site about
Amerindian/Métis families: http://www.acadian-home.org/Mikmaq.html
Many
people who feel that there is too little information
to prove any ancestor, just stop at that point. You certainly don't need my
consent or anyone else's to take that option. I have not stopped at that same
point with certain ancestors, because: first) I believe that evidence is strong
enough to warrant it; second) It is
easy to say that now-deceased, but once-equally-acclaimed genealogists made
lots of errors, but that does not compute that therefore they were also in
error on an entirely different person; third)
at least some Acadian Genealogy centers and paid professional researchers still
agreed (until mtDNA tested otherwise) with the Métis ancestry, and finally)
Official Métis oragnizations still listed Edmée and Catherine's descendants as of Métis descent.
**** Now having U6a haplotype results for
Catherine Lejeune, I have removed my
Amerindian tag for Catherine Lejeune.
-
MM