Claire de Crespon m. Abel St. Paul References

 



I should first point out that I have relied heavily upon the cited references of others, notably members of the Sicard de Carufel family and descendants with much more direct bloodlines and far more directed research along the Sicard de Carufel and De Saint-Paul lines than I. Although I have not found evidence that anyone disputes the parentage of Marthe de Saint-Paul, I have not found a clearly stated source that says they are in possession of a copy of a will or marriage contract or other source that explicitly names Marthe's father as Abel de Saint-Paul. Since this line, however, includes the marriage to Claire de Crespon, a descendant of Charlemagne, I have attempted to provide as much detail as I was able to muster from the more limited research that I personally conducted, and this information is presented below:.

Marthe de Saint Paul is included a child of Abel de Saint-Paul, Seigneur de Bonneville and of the Seigneur’s wife Claire de Crespon in the genealogy of Jean-Louis Dega, who lists 2 children: Louis and Marthe and gives as his source:
"le 12-1-1650 une donnation faite à son fils chez Cassaing notaire à Dénat cote AD Tarn 3 E 3/585 f.113." I don’t have a copy of that document or know its specific wording. It must certainly give the name of the son (Louis), but I do not know if Marthe is specifically mentioned, or if she is thus deduced to be Abel’s daughter by way of other documentation showing her as Louis’ sister.

other sources I used which specify Claire de Crespon as wife, and Marthe as daughter of Abel de Saint-Paul:

"L'histoire de la Seigneurie de Carufel,"
published by Clement Plante in 1980.

and also,

The cited reference by Clement Plante of an estate inventory presented on 12 April 1743, before the notary Antoine Puypéroux de Lafosse. The inventory includes: a will by Marthe de St-Paul wife of the noble Jean de Sicard Sr de Carufel, dated 11 May 1664, and a marriage contract dated 13 January, 1630 for Marthe de Sainte-Paul to Jean Sicard de Carufel. Presumably the marriage contract lists Marthe’s father, but I have not been able to acquire a copy of the contract or even ascertain who might have inherited the original or a copy. Bill Morin’s wording describing the 1664 will suggests that Marthe’s testament also specifies her as daughter of Abel de Saint-Paul, and Bill also states at the Sicard genforum.com that he has tried to cross verify the marriages, etc. in his records and in the research of his mother-in-law ( a Sicard de Carufel) with church records and other sources.

Another source:
“Généalogie descendante de Jean Sicard de Carufel qui vint au Canada en 1685,” published 1996 by Roger Sicard de Carufel.

and …
internet genealogies of Bill J. Morin, Romain Lavergne, Larry Desaire, Sue Lamirande, Jeanette Collins and Francois Marchi showing Marthe as the daughter of Abel de Saint-Paul, none of whose work have I attempted to either verify or disprove.

Coincidental evidence would also be the marriage of Marthe to Jean Sicard de Carufel, specifically referenced as “noble,” since Abel would have if at all possible have married his daughter to another noble.

Sources for Jean Jacques de Saint Paul and Elisabeth Dumas as parents of Abel de Saint Paul are J-F Blanc and the above-cited document referenced by Jean-Louis Dega.

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Posted by Bonnie Schewan-Maccabee:

 

My mother-in-law was a Sicard-de-Carufel and I have been researching the family for over ten years. Went to France this past summer to see the "fief". Here is what I have down to Marguerite LORANGER (aka LORANGER-RIVARD). It is long. In my database I have tried to verify data online with Church records or other sources but you should still double-check everything yourself. When searching on this family you may want to look at the aka names: DeCarufel, Carufel, Cicard, Sicard, Caruffel, Charufel, Carifel, Carusel, des Rives and delaVaude. Happy hunting!

SICARD: 1732 Maskinonge, Quebec. The baptism of Jean SICAR was performed by Cherubin DENIAU missionary/priest in the presence of his parents: Jean SICAR DECARUFEL, Ecuyer & Angelique LUPIEN; Jean SICAR DECARUFFEL, Ecuyer & Officier dans les troupes de ce pays; and Marie CHAUVIN [Source: Dictionnaire Genealogique des familles canadiennes, Abbé Cyprien Tanguay, Tome 7 pg 176 1719. II-Sicard (2), Jean [& Angelique Baron-Lupien's son, Jean, born 1732]
LAURENGER: Marguerite's father, the spouse of Genevieve Cote, was Joseph Loranger. At the time of Marguerite's marriage to Jean Sicard, her maiden name is listed as simply RIVARD. In the registry of births, when her daughter Marguerite was born, her maiden name is written LAURENGER. [Source: University de Montreal -- P.R.D.H. - Programme de Recherche en Démographie Historique; University de Montreal -- P.R.D.H. - Programme de Recherche en Démographie Historique
MARRIAGES: 6 Aug 1752 to Marie-Madeleine MARCHAND; 16 Feb 1784 to Marguerite LORANGER [ aka RIVARD-LORANGER] ; 21 Nov 1796 to Marie-Louise MEUNIER -- Jean SICARD DECARUFEL, widow of Madeleine MARCHAND (deceased), married Marguerite RIVARD, daughter of Joseph RIVARD (deceased) and Genevieve COTE. It was noted that one ban was dispensed.
DESCENDANCE:
Jean SICARD married Mademoiselle DOUMERGE in 1510, Castres, Haut-Languedoc Jean was the head of the Sicard family estate [seigneurie] located in the region of Albigeois, Haut [upper] Languedoc in the area of the town of Castres near Fauch in the county of Réalmont. According to the work of Benjamin Sulte, [Translated from French] the family were "from upper Languedoc in Albigeois, residents of Castre or the surrounding area owners of the fief Carufel in 1530 from the time of Raymond Sicard, the chief recognized as a noble of nobile origin." Their son:
Raymond SICARD de Carufel m: Catherine de SALHAYRET [aka de Palhayret] 1540 in Castres. Raymond, the proprietor of the fief of Carufel, was also known as Seigneur or Sieur Raymond Sicard de Carufel. He was recognized as a noble the 15 Aug 1530. His testament is dated 1556. According to an article by Benjamin Sulte, "Bulletin des recherches historiques" numéro d'avril 1914, the family lived in upper Languedoc in Albigeois, in the village of Castres or nearby and owned the fief of Carufel. In 1530, the head of the family was Raymond Sicard, owner of the fief of Carufel recognized as a noble of noble origin. Raymond's testament in 1556 was in favor of his wife, Catherine de Salhayret and their son, Jean. Their son:
Jean SICARD de Carufel m: Marie Anne De St.MAURICE 18 Jun 1589, Castres Anne de Saint-Maurice, daughter of the Seigneur de Conolx or Convlx. The marriage procuration was agreed to by Anne's brother, Jean de St-Maurice, seigneur de Conolx. The bride's brother, P. Seigneur of Conolx, is recorded as a witness to the marriage. Their son:
Jean SICARD de Carufel m: Marthe De StPAUL 16 Jan 1630 in Castres. Two sons identified thus far: Charles & Pierre. The Sicards were already serving in the military when Jean, son of Jean and Anne de Saint-Maurice, married Marthe de Saint-Paul, daughter of Abel [de Saint-Paul] seigneur de Conneval in January 1630. On March 6, 1639, Jean Sicard de Carufel was made captain of the regiment of Cognac by the Marshall of Chambere. Marthe, the daughter of noble Abel de Saint Paul, Proprietor (Sieur) of Conneval, made her will on May 11, 1664. Their son Pierre:
Pierre SICARD de Carufel m Marie DeFARGUES 5 Dec 1663
Some sources indicate Jean and Marthe's son, Pierre, was born around 1646; others around 1631. Pierre married Marie de Fargues daughter of Jacques, seigneur de Farguettes in 1663. PRDH indicates that he was married "before 1683-12-31" other sources give the date as December 5, 1683. On May 11, 1664, Marthe de Saint-Paul made her testament in favor of her husband and two sons, Pierre, sieur de Carufel, a Parisien parliamentary lawyer, and Charles. Two years later [1666] Pierre and Marie de Fargues' son, Jean, was born. [According to military documents, Jean was 66 in 1732] Following the 1664 to 1667 ordinances revising titles of nobility, Sicard appeared before the Montpellier tribunal and on September 5, 1669, he and his descendants were declared nobles. The act also mentions the fief of Carufel. Marie was the daughter of noble Jacques de Forgues [Fargues], Seigneur of Farguettes. They had two children that I know of: Jean Baptiste & Catherine. Their son:

Jean-Baptiste SICARD de Carufel married Genevieve RATE on 27 Nov 1694 in St-Pierre, Ile d'Orleans, Quebec. The first mention of Jean's presence in New France is the act in the Notre-Dame de Quebec church register dated 20 January 1686 in which the young nobleman renounced his faith. According to the "Acte d'Abjuration", Jean SICARD, native of the parish of St. Jacques in the city of Castres-d'Albigeois in Haut-Languedoc, a sergent in the regiment of Renaud d'Avesnes des Meloizes recanted from the pretended reformed religion [a fait abjuration de la religion pretendue reformee] before Jean Baptiste DE LACROIX DE ST VALLIER, Bishop of Quebec. Witnesses were: Jacques DEBRISAY DE DENONVILLE, Governor, Lieutenant General of the Army, Quebec and his wife Catherine COURTIN. [The fact that Jean recanted his faith would support the notion he was either a Cathare -- one of the many Albigeois who suffered religious persecution and fled from France c1538-1750 or a Protestant.] A marriage contract prepared by the notary, Etienne Jacob and signed 25 November 1694, states that, at the time, the Jean was a sergeant in the Company of Michel Leneuf de la Vallière. Two days later, Sergeant Jean Sicard de Carufel, married Geneviève, daughter of Jacques Ratté and Anne Martin [grand-daughter of Abraham Martin dit l'Ecossais, a royal pilot. The land of Martin, called the Plains of Abraham, adjoined the famous plateau where Wolfe and Montcalm battled.] The ceremony in the parish of Saint Pierre de l'Île d'Orléans was officiated by the Abby Dauric and witnessed by Jacques Ratté and his wife, Anne Martin, Jacques Gosselin, the bride's brother-in-law and Pierre Roberge. In addition to the dispensation of two bans, due to Sicard's military career, permission was granted by the Governor-general.
Jean returned to France in 1696 and, on May 22, in a ceremony held before a notary in Castres, the noble Jean Sicard, lord of Farguettes, officer in the Marine Troops in Canada, declared his loyalty and respect for his father, Pierre Sicard, and, in addition to words of affection and courtesy by Pierre, was emancipated and declared free to make his own decisions.
Genevieve's baptism was attended by her parents: Jacques Rate & Anne Martin; Martin Coste; and Genevieve Miloue and her spouse Guillaume Paradis. The presiding priest was FLAMY. Her burial in Maskinonge was attended by her husband, Jean SICARD DECARUFFEL, Ecuyer, Officier dans les troups; Jean Baptiste COURCHESNE, Jean Baptiste PETIT BRUNO and Salvien BOUCHER, missionary/priest.
There are indications that Jean bore arms with "de geules, au paon rouant d'or, au chef cousu d'azur chargé de trois étoiles d'argent." -- registered to the St. Maurice de Coudols family. [There is no indication that, following the Sicards being declared nobles at the Montpellier tribunal of 1669, the family registered their own coat of arms.]
Jean returned to Nouvelle France and, on March 18 1704 after living ten years in Saint-Pierre d'Orléans, had the sale of property to his brother-in-law, Pierre Ratté notarized by Etienne Jacob. At the time of the birth of their fifth child, Louis, in March 1705, Jean and Geneviève were living in Maskinonge in the seigneurie des Legardeur de Repentigny. The Governor, Marquis Philippe de Rigaud de Vaudreuil (1703-1726) and the intendant François de Beauharnois officially granted Jean Sicard the fief de Carufel on April 21, 1705 in an "Acte de concesson.
The domain, two leagues [a "lieue" is an old unit of measure about 4 km] across by the same depth was in the area now known as Saint Justin. "de l'espace de terre qui reste dans la riviére Maskinongé, dans le lac St. Pierre, depuis celle qui a esté cy-devant concédée au sieur Le Gardeur jusqu'au premier sault de la dite riviére, ce qui contient deux lieues ou environ de front sur pareille profondeur En titre de Fief et seigneurie, haute, moyenne et basse justice." In return, Jean, an officer in the troops of the marine detachment, made an act of faith and hommage for the fief and seigneurie to de Vaudreuil et de Beauharnois.
Under the French seigneurial regime, seigneurs were duty-bound to promote colonization by providing "immigrants with favourable conditions for the settlement and agricultural development ..." [Translated] "From the time he took possession of his fief," wrote l'abbé Hermann Plante, "the lord of Carufel attempted to establish himself; but the timing was not good. In 1705, it was difficult to move away from the Saint Lawrence River. The clearing of the seigneurie in Maskinongé wasn't advanced enough to provide for colonization... fear of the Iroquois still existed. The peace treaty signed four years earlier in Montreal between the French and the savages buried the hatchet but the Indians hypocritical temperament made attracting settlers difficult. The 1701 treaty, still unproven and providing no guarantees, did little to aid the lord of Carufel in attracting settlers to move far from the river... But the lord was aging," adds l'abbé Plante, "he didn't want to die before realizing the profits from his land." After vain attempts to attract his companions to follow him, around 1720 Jean traveled up the Maskinongé River, the only route at the time, and, with his sons, began working on the south-west side about a quarter of a league from the Maskinongé fief.
In a statement/enumeration of 19 February 1723, Jean declared a sixteen foot square house enclosed by a palisade and three acres of workable land. Few seigneurs could afford to live off their annual rents and, unless a seigneurie has 25-50 settled families, maintenance costs generally surpassed revenues. While clearing the land, at least until 1732, Jean continued his military career as Ensign of the Troops of the colony. There are also several transactions recorded in the minutes of Pierre Petit including an agreement August 16, 1728 with the Ursulines of Trois-Rivières ending a land boundary dispute.
The 27 January 1737, Jean made his testament in favor of his children. Four years later, in 1741, Jean Sicard de Carufel witnessed the sale of portions of his land as his children sold their share to their brother-in-law, Jean-François Baril-Duchesny, spouse of Geneviève SdC. Jean died in August 1743 at the age of 77. Eight of Jean's ten children married before their father's death; the others married in 1745 and 1751. One of Jean & Genevieve's sons:

Jean SICARD de Carufel married Elizabeth (Isabelle) LEGARDEUR around 1719 and Marie-Angelique LUPIEN BARRON on or about 1 Apr 1728 in Maskinonge, Quebec. The officiant at Jean's baptism was the priest, DAURIC. Present were his father, Jean, a Sergent living in St-Pierre, his mother Genevieve, Pierre RATTE, and Genevieve CREPEAU. On 4 May 1745 Master Sicard was appointed Capt, second in command of the Militia Company of Maskinonge. LEGARDEUR's second marriage was to Louis Jared BEAUREGARD, widow of Marguerite St Aubin and son of Andre JARED and Marguerite ANTIOME (both deceased) married Elisabeth LEGARDEUR, widow of Jean Sicard, and also of Joseph Abel. The officiant was Andre Jorian. Guests/witnesses included: Jean DeLande Dechampigny, Marie and Marguerite Jared, daughters of the groom, Charles Volant, Antoine Jean, Louis Jared DeBeauregard, Elisabeth Legardeur, and the bride's sons Charles and Pierre Sicard. Jean and Elizabeth had eight children: Joseph b: 1720, Marie Barbe b: 1722; Jean Baptiste b: 1725; Unknown child 1727; Francoise 1728; Charles and Pierre. (end of posting by Bonnie Schewan-Maccabee).

 


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